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Book IV.—Of Marcion’s Antitheses.

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The state of the text in some parts of this book is frightful. It has been almost hopeless to extract any sense whatever out of the Latin in many passages—indeed, the renderings are in these cases little better than guess-work—and the confusion of images, ideas, and quotations is extraordinary.

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Book IV.—Of Marcion’s Antitheses.

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“Conditus;” i.e., probably (in violation of quantity) the past part. of “condio” = flavoured, seasoned.

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Life’s Fount; a Draught fraught with all wisdom. He

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These lines are capable, according to their punctuation, of various renderings, which for brevity’s sake I must be content to omit.

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30 Sole God perpetual, Power immense, is He.

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“Unum hunc esse Patrem;” i.e., “that this One (God) is the Father.” But I rather incline to read, “unumque esse;” or we may render, “This One is the Sire.”

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Himself delivers; “Father there is One

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Ad quem se curvare genu plane omne fatetur. The reference is to Phil. ii. 10; but our author is careless in using the present tense, “se curvare.”

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That every knee doth bow itself; of whom

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The passage which follows is almost unintelligible. The sense which I have offered in my text is so offered with great diffidence, as I am far from certain of having hit the meaning; indeed, the state of the text is such, that any meaning must be a matter of some uncertainty.

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The semblance of the “goats” teaches that they

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i.e., “barren” of faith and good works. The “goats” being but “kids” (see Lev. xvi. 8), would, of course, be barren. “Exiled” seems to mean “excommunicated.” But the comparison of the sacrificed goat to a penitent, and of the scapegoat to an impenitent, excommunicate, is extravagant. Yet I see no other sense.

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As barren; fruitless both; (of whom the Lord

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i.e., in that the blood of the one was brought within the veil; the other was not.

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Dissever, and had into portions twain

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The ark was overlaid with gold without as well as within. (See Ex. xxv. 10, 11; xxxvii. 1, 2; and this is referred to in Heb. ix. 3, 4—κιβωτὸν…περικεκαλυμμένην—where our Eng. ver. rendering is defective, and in the context as well.) This, however, may be said to be implied in the following words: “and all between,” i.e., between the layers above and beneath, “of wood.”

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Gold-clad; and all between of wood. Here are so

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Migne supposes some error in these words. Certainly the sense is dark enough; but see lower down.

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Which puts forth germens of the cross—unlike

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It yielded “almonds,” according to the Eng. ver. (Num. xvii. 8). But see the LXX.

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The cross itself, yet born of storax-tree—And over it—in uniformity

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Sagmina. But the word is a very strange one to use indeed. See the Latin Lexicons, s.v.

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And the inviolable sanctities

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“Tegebat,” i.e., with the “fiery-cloudy pillar,” unless it be an error for “regebat,” which still might apply to the pillar.

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Ever, the People sheltering. And thus

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“Operæ,” i.e., sacrifices. The Latin is a hopeless jumble of words without grammatical sequence, and any rendering is mere guesswork.

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The People’s “works,” which ever—“not without

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Cælataque sancta. We might conjecture “celataque sancta,” ="and the sanctuaries formerly hidden.”

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And holy vaults, and what was double erst

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“Lignum:” here probably ="the flesh,” which He took from Mary; the “rod” (according to our author) which Isaiah had foretold.

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210 Christ’s venerable body, joined, through “wood,”

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“Ligno,” i.e., “the cross,” represented by the “wood” of which the tabernacle’s boards, on which the coverings were stretched (but comp. 147–8, above), were made.

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Are flesh not born of seed, outstretcht on “wood;”

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As the flame of the lamps appeared to grow out of and be fused with the “golden semblance” or “form” of the lampstand or candlestick.

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At the same time, with golden semblance fused,

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Of which the olive—of which the pure oil for the lamps was to be made: Ex. xxvii. 20; Lev. xxiv. 2—is a type. “Peace” is granted to “the flesh” through Christ’s work and death in flesh.

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215 Thereto; that, with peace granted, flesh might bloom

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Here ensues a confused medley of all the cherubic figures of Moses, Ezekiel, and St. John.

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The cherubim

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The cherubim, (or, “seraphim” rather,) of Isa. vi. have each six wings. Ezekiel mentions four cherubim, or “living creatures.” St. John likewise mentions four “living creatures.” Our author, combining the passages, and thrusting them into the subject of the Mosaic cherubim, multiplies the six (wings) by the four (cherubs), and so attains his end—the desired number “twenty-four”—to represent the books of the Old Testament, which (by combining certain books) may be reckoned to be twenty-four in number.

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In number four times six, the heraldings

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There is again some great confusion in the text. The elders could not “stand enthroned:” nor do they stand “over,” but “around” God’s throne; so that the “insuper solio” could not apply to that.

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265 The enthroned elders white and crowned, who (as

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Æmulamenta. Migne seems to think the word refers to Marcion’s “Antitheses.”

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Wherefore we, justly speaking emulous words,

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i.e., the People of Israel. See the de Idol., p. 148, c. v. note 1.

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Him had the Law the People shown to be

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Migne’s pointing is followed, in preference to Oehler’s.

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Through the seers’ voices, to be One: and Paul,

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Causa etenim fidei rationis imagine major.

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Than fancied reason. Through a mirror—shade

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i.e., the chief of the Levites, the high priest.

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Piacular drops, them the first Levite bare

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i.e., perhaps the Jewish and Christian peoples. Comp. adv. Jud., c. 1.

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Are men exiled out of the “peoples twain”

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It might be questionable whether “jussa” refers to “cherubim” or to “sagmina.”

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Covered obediently. Without the veil

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i.e., twice three + the central one = 7.

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A lampstand, and as many lamps:

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Our author persists in calling the tabernacle temple.

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The temple.

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i.e., of animals which, as irrational, were “without the Law.”

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Of lawless life. There, too, the Lord—Himself

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i.e., beneath the altar. See the 11th verse ib.

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Upon their slaughter. There, meantime, is rest.

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Or possibly, “deeper than the glooms:” “altior a tenebris.”

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“Abraham’s bosom;” high above the glooms,

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Aërial, i.e., as he said above, “dyed with heaven’s hue.”

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With sacred Spirit: the aërial skins

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In ligno. The passage is again in an almost desperate state.

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A body:) on the “wood” conjoined ’twill lull

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Or, “records:” “monumenta,” i.e., the written word, according to the canon.

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Have trained, and given us right monuments;

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See the preceding book.

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The youthful people, which, rich, free, and heir,

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Molem belli deducere terræ.

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They should conduct a massive war; should raze

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i.e., apparently Marcion’s.

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Out of his own words even strive to express

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See the opening of the preceding book.

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To the saints’ eyes the Bandit’s covert plague:

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I have altered the punctuation here.

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25 In circuit: matter none perennial is,

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This savours of the Nicene Creed.

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35 Begotten from the Light immense, proclaims

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Legitimos. See book iv. 91.

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Without a crime. With such zeal, by a law

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Comp. Ex. xx. 5; Deut. v. 9.

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55 Grandchildren in “fourth generation” now

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See Isa. i. 10–15; Jer. vi. 20.

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With swarm of sin? Does He, the truthful, bid,

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Comp. the preceding book, 355.

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The Law, by facts predictions proving; who

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See 141, 142, above.

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(We have recorded) was a dusky veil.

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i.e., by the four evangelists.

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And are the one word through fourfold order led;